Lada Parts UK

phil_doc · Standard Joined: 11 Aug 2008 Posts: 2

Hi there,

This is more general questions that technical but I thought I'd whack it in here anyway:

I'm looking at Getting a Lada Niva so I can to some off-roading (boo, hiss?) and was just wondering how they performed as I have never actually been in one.. From what I have read they seem to be able to drive over/through what ever you put infront of them (read with a pinch of salt) but I was wandering what they are like to maintain, how regularily they need to be maintained yada, yada ?

As I'm also a lousy student this would be my only car so I'd be hoping to use it for 'regular use' too. Do these things shift at all are would I be looking at mid 60's? I'd assume the they drink a fair amount of petrol too?

Cheers,

Phil

Hoodoo · No rank Joined: 25 Jan 2003 Posts: 5052

Off-road ability is very good. They're not unstoppable (nothing is) but they'll hold their own against anything else.
Maintenance is as for any other motor, plus a bit extra if you're hammering it off-road. In short, look after it and it will look after you.
On road performance depends on which model you get, with the 1.7i being the one to go for. General acceleration and handling is good, but remember it's NOT a GTi or some such thing, so don't expect to participate in the traffic lights grand prix! Top speed is in the region of 85mph, but mecanical sympathy drops that to about 75mph!
Fuel consumption, in general, everyday driving, will be about 28mpg. Maybe less, maybe more, depending on your right foot!
Parts etc are readily available, and very cost effective, from Alan Bird, number at the top of the page.
Regards,
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'03 Niva 1.7si
Buckley, North Wales.

GadgetBoy · Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:21 pm Post subject:

Nivas don't eat Land Rovers for breakfast ...... because they stick in their teeth! Very Happy

They are a very capable off-roader in standard trim and an extremely capable one with very minor and inexpensive modifications.

Like any car regular maintenance makes all the difference. Well maintained, Nivas are very reliable. They are very easy to work on and, depending where you are, parts are readily available and cheap.

If you're going to use it as a daily driver as well keep fairly conservative tyres on it. It keeps the road noise down and helps the on-road handling.
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'96 Niva 1.7i
Belfast, N. Ireland
http://www.ladaniva.co.uk

Dimitris_TL · Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:35 pm Post subject:

Hello all, here is the OBD II plug

Does anybody know what is for the grey wire pin No 11 of the plug
thanks in advance
PS here is the entire circuit diagram http://img379.imageshack.us/my.php?image=212134pages3140page10bw1.jpg
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GadgetBoy · Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:51 pm Post subject:

Acccording to the full diagram it's power to the fuel pump. If you read the notes at the bottom of the drawing the number on the wire is the item it is connected to.
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'96 Niva 1.7i
Belfast, N. Ireland
http://www.ladaniva.co.uk

baxter · Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:21 pm Post subject:

If you can get a Niva that's in good nick to start with (and maintain it) you'll be fine.

However, if it's an older carby model and not in tip-top order be prepared for some DIY time. Perhaps a lot of DIY time. Nothing too major usually, but if car DIY is not your thing avoid a older or poor condition Niva as a daily runner.

I currently run a carby Niva (that has probably had a previous less forgiving owner) as a daily - I've spent a LOT of time on it, and it's still uber thirsty and far from 100%. But despite something new failing off almost each week or month - it has never failed to get me home.

Here's my thoughts as running one as a daily - http://www.ladaniva.co.uk/baxter/resources/Daily.htm
Bear in mind this doesn't apply to later and top condition Nivas.
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phil_doc · Standard Joined: 11 Aug 2008 Posts: 2

Thanks for the replies and guides - I hade a look at your NNG too.

I've spent a fair few weekends and evenings tinkering with my current/broken/now stored in a bard car being a Triumph Dolomite so don't mind the odd bit of DIY. I would like my next car to be slighlty more releable though.

Would you say this site is the best place to get one from ? eBay don't seem to have many on there.. I'm half tempted to go 'pot luck' and bid for this but am certain I will be quicly regreting it if I do !

Phil

LINCSLADA · Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:38 pm Post subject:

My old modfied niva did everything i wanted it to do no problem at all..

My latest niva is in standard trim with the expection of mud tyres...I only get into bother when the towbar acts as a plough..Its coming off soon though..

With genreal maintance you will find a niva very realiable..

Cheers Gav
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SimonAllen · Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:12 pm Post subject:

really mate, I wouldn't bid on one that has been used just for of roading. Trust me, I've had one on a trailler, and know what hey will do when you haven't got to drive them home Wink

they go a hell of a lot further than when you have to use it for work lol. Judging by the fact that he snapped a panhard rod last time he use it, hes been using it HARD.

get yourself one with tax and MOT ideally. that way you will have less work to do before it's "right"

and don't put a v6 in it, because it takes AGES!! lol
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jiffyman · Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:14 pm Post subject:

Dimitris_TL · Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:24 pm Post subject:

GadgetBoy thank you very much for your help, but the No of the gray wire on OBD II socket is C24 and the No of the gray wire power to the fuel pump is C4 so I am afraid is not the same wire, think different what is the point of having the power of fuel pump at a pin of OBD II reader socket.
The reason asking hekp is because I have installed a scangauge unit to my Niva, here you can have a look. http://www.nivaclub.gr/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1965&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=15
Best regards
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GadgetBoy · Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:36 pm Post subject:

Yes. Item 4 is the connector, item 24 is the fuel pump. C 24 at the connector end goes to item 24 - the pump and vice-versa C 4 at the pump goes to item 4 the connector.
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'96 Niva 1.7i
Belfast, N. Ireland
http://www.ladaniva.co.uk

Dimitris_TL · Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:52 pm Post subject:

Gadgetboy thanks a lot for your help you are absolutely right, now I have realized the way that circuit diagrams works, but what is the point of having on the OBD II socket the power of fuel pumb ? do you have any idea why Lada does that?
best regards
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GadgetBoy · Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:57 pm Post subject:

The fuel pump does not operate all the time, it only maintains a preset pressure in the system controlled by the ECU. Older cars had a mechanical accelerometer which cut the fuel pump in the case of an accident in newer systems this is usually a piezo-electronic accelerometer built in to the ECU.
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'96 Niva 1.7i
Belfast, N. Ireland
http://www.ladaniva.co.uk

Dimitris_TL · Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:11 am Post subject:

Gadget boy thanks for sharing your knowledge but I can;t understand why leading out to the OBD II reader socket the power of the F/pump it could have just lead it direct to the ECU, I am asking that because the OBD II readers I have they don't use that pin, so please if you know something about it give me a help.
Best regards,
by the way I use SKYPE also as "Dimitris_TL" we can chat there if you like so we don't take room from the forum
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