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Post by Zelandeth » Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:15 am

I had quite a few errands to run yesterday and as it seemed a little breezy I was initially just going to take the Xantia. At the last minute though I changed my mind and took TPA.

Turned out the wind obviously wasn't strong enough to have any really noticeable effect, so was a good afternoon to take her out for a spin. Thanks to some extremely poor forward planning on my part, 30-40 miles worth of driving ended up being something like 80. Anyhow, it was a nice afternoon for it and I wasn't on the clock for once, so no issue really.

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It's really hard to convey how much more pleasant it is to be in this car at any real speed now compared to before the carpeting went in.

Now the weather has turned a bit cooler and I've managed to lock the windows closed with a couple of clamps it's making it quite obvious that I do need to look at the door closure a bit more. The nearside door in particular sits quite proud at the front (you can see it in quite a few photos I think), and both makes a racket and causes a bit of a draught. I'll need to see if I can adjust it to a better compromise between actually closing properly without needing to be body-slammed (like the offside one) and sealing.

We also made a trip out to pick up a box of some random computer bits and pieces during which TPA was making some friends.

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Yes, that is a Mondeo Ghia Saloon on a K plate. She is currently in the process of being recommissioned and hopefully should be back on the road pretty soon.

The only missed beat during the entire day was just as I was leaving Buckingham (for the first time) when she suddenly jumped out of gear. This however coincided with me having to tighten the seatbelt, so I reckon the belt had just wrapped itself around the selector. I've noticed them getting tangled on a few occasions before, so might need to look at a guide of some kind to stop that from happening.

So in 80-odd miles, including trundling around town and blatting down the A5 (including several overtakes), no issues to report aside from a draughty door. I'll take that.

Fast forward to today, the second hose I had been waiting for for the Xantia arrived so I was able to get the air intake put back together properly and do away with the ridiculous looking cone filter.

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I think once there's a bit of engine bay dust on those hoses you wouldn't notice that they weren't standard unless you were really knowledgeable about Xantia engine bays! ...If you do know them that well you probably know that that hose always disintegrates therefore why it's been replaced!

Yes, I did get one of the hose clips the opposite way around first try. I then had to go back and fix that as it would have driven my OCD round the bend.
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Post by Aaron » Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:43 pm

had 'fun' under the car with the wire brush...
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I just keep telling myself that fixing a big hole is no different to fixing a small hole.

After my experience with the two identical cans of halfords citroen red being different shades, i think it is reasonable to assume that all of these cans will be the same colour.

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I can't resist a redused to clear bargain. They will be close enough if i need to put a temporary top coat on any lada panels.
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Post by Zelandeth » Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:14 pm

Few frilly bits needing some attention there Aaron, nothing that can't be sorted though. Just need to work away at it systematically. I reckon that's probably not far off what my first Riva would have ended up looking like if I'd really gone after it!

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Had only a brief bit of time to look at car stuff today but decided to see if I could improve my door situation a bit.

I think one aspect is that the door sits a little low because the rollers are knackered. I will deal with that at some point...but that point is not now. The issue is that because the door is sitting slightly too low the curve at the top of the panel bottoms out too early when you close the door. Guessing the documentation we've got access to doesn't state what the dimensions of those rollers should be...

There was no additional adjustment possible on the front striker plate, which tied in with that being the one which rattles the most. So I took it off and drilled two new holes to give me another 1/4" or so to play with. You can see the witness mark where the striker plate used to be.

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I think this is the best we're going to get until I completely rebuild the door rollers to lift it up a bit. Any tighter and you'll not be able to close it - and I don't want to put too much strain on the door itself.

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Not perfect, but if you look at the last exterior photos above you can see this is *way* better.

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The door too does actually touch the seal now without needing to add extra foam strips or anything, so it's definitely helped.

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We'll find out if it's actually helped on the move shortly.

As far as the rollers to, I've got an idea in my mind of getting hold of a set of skateboard wheels and attacking them in a lathe...open to better suggestions!
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Post by Aaron » Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:25 pm

I think skateboard wheels are expensive,
What size rollers do you need to end up with?
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Post by Zelandeth » Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:38 pm

Aaron wrote:
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I think skateboard wheels are expensive,
What size rollers do you need to end up with?
We're not 100% certain as none of the manuals show dimensions and mine are mangled beyond usefulness for a precise measurement.

Having a quick dig around it looks like I can get a set of 4 for about £15, which doesn't seem too bad.

Originally there were no bearings or anything involved, the rollers just sit on a metal shaft - and because that shaft has rusted on all four of mine they no longer rotate...so my runners have become sliders (and it looks like they had been that way for a long while while when still in service) so there are huge flat spots in them.
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Post by Aaron » Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:40 pm

I've been doing alot of welding practice. I've just about got the hang of welding scrap metal clamped to the workbench.
Welding upside down while crawling under a car can't be much harder can it?
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Post by Zelandeth » Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:43 pm

Aaron wrote:
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I've been doing alot of welding practice. I've just about got the hang of welding scrap metal clamped to the workbench.
Welding upside down while crawling under a car can't be much harder can it?
To be honest so long as the welder is set up properly and it's not windy it's not massively more difficult. Awkward and uncomfortable yes... especially when the inevitable bit of spatter manages to bypass all your PPE and land in your ear.

I think the thing I found hardest welding underneath a car (admittedly I've only done a tiny bit) was actually trying to get everything clean enough. The welder is unwieldy under there....however the grinder etc are a hundred times worse. I swore I'd invest in a car roller before ever doing it again.

Oh, and if you haven't already got one, get an auto dimming mask. They're so cheap now that there's really no reason not to and they make things massively less annoying.

This is the one I got. Worth every penny.
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Post by Zelandeth » Sat Oct 31, 2020 4:49 am

We've taken a brief interlude in the automotive department over the last few days as I suffered a critical loss of patience with the state my bedroom/office was in and decided that enough was enough and I needed to do something about it. As anyone who knows me will confirm...once I've decided I'm getting a specific task accomplished I can be something of a force to be reckoned with. I definitely got the bloody mindedness of being an Aries!

My room is a bit of an odd layout.

It's actually two rooms joined together. One smallish bedroom, then off to one side one very narrow room that's more like a large walk in wardrobe than a room. It's about eight feet long, but only about four wide - you can comfortably reach both sides standing in the middle. The main room is eight feet plus a couple of inches square...so it's a smallish room but not tiny. It is however square. You know what I've come to realise over the last couple of years? A square is a *really* awkward shape for a room! Have a look around your bedroom...What's the prevailing shape of your furniture? Rectangular isn't it...So you tend to arrange things in one main axes to make best use of the space. Things are made worse by the fact that the door is smack in the middle of one wall and the window is smack in the middle of another - so that's basically two sides of the room that are 70% spoken for before you've even moved any furniture in. The smaller room to the side was never really originally intended to be a room - it's where the monitoring systems for the various heating and energy harvesting systems that were tested out here by the BBC in the first couple of years of the life of this place (including a combined heat & power system based around a Fiat 126 engine) were housed. Sadly aside from the end of a stinking great three phase power cable in one corner of the garage all evidence of that is long gone.

Originally when we moved in I set up the main room as the bedroom, with the Annexe as we tend to call it set up to be my office.

Bedroom looked roughly like this.

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The Annexe after quite a lot of effort and experimentation looked like this.

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Which *looked* the part as a nice little tech cave...especially after dark...

(This is an older photo but you get the idea)

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Sadly while it looked the part it really didn't work well at all...both rooms are really heavily compromising on several key points.

I think the main reason that I originally put the bed where I did is that my room at least in the early days of us moving in here was the default guest room - and that bed can fold out into a double. However it doesn't work...as once the bed is deployed then you literally can't open the door to the room.

The office really doesn't work well either, for all it looks like it's making good use of an otherwise very strangely proportioned and not particularly useful space.

Firstly, it just always feels cramped. Secondly there are no windows in there, and no matter how much light you throw at it it just always feels dingy. There are something like 300W of LEDs and 150W of metal halide lighting going on in that picture, and it still felt dimmer in person than it looks. Turns out that having no windows is another issue, in that once you've got the computer doing anything vaguely strenuous, it gets real warm in there real fast. Generally it was just an unpleasant place to be.

As neither room really worked particularly well, I just tended not to spend much time in there - which is partly why it became something of a dumping grounds for otherwise homeless items in the house. I was used to generally having free reign of the house while everyone was at work, so didn't really highly prioritise work on better sorting out my space. Right up until Lockdown happened anyway! Suddenly with everyone on seemingly endless teleconferences I have ended up hiding in here a good deal more.

So it was time to have a proper think about things and to see if I could improve on matters. Knowing that the bed doesn't work with both sections set up next to each other eliminated one of the original major constraints...so I decided to flip the main purpose of the two rooms. The Annexe being a somewhat cramped, dark, dingy sensory deprivation chamber really isn't an issue if all you want to do in there is sleep I reckon. With the bed out the way that then frees up a huge chunk of floor and wall space for a decent sized workstation.

Now actually rearranging things was quite a task in its own right simply because A: Both rooms are pretty small and B: I have FAR too much stuff. I describe the process as being somewhat like trying to complete one of those slide puzzles that were popular when I was a kid, where you've got tiles that you can move around to make up a picture...but where you have to repeatedly dig out enough space to make the hole to allow you to move the tiles around. Leading to scenes like this while I was dismantling the bed so I could move it.

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This was what happened when I dragged (nearly) all the older computers in the room into one spot!

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That's not nearly all of them I own either, that's just those which were in this room to start with! We're not even going into radios, Hi-Fi or televisions...

After the best part of a week, an unfeasible amount of swearing and a very sore back, we've ended up with this.

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Peeking through the doorway into the Annexe where there used to be an extremely claustrophobic workstation we now see this.

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There's still a shedload to be done obviously! The desktop is temporary, I'll be replacing it with something without a huge step in the middle in due course, and all the stuff on the shelves has basically just been randomly shoved there to get it out of the way while I've been working. A lot of the lights will come off the wall too - I just got utterly fed up of moving a lot of the bulkhead fixtures around in circles that I just stuck them on the wall as it was out the way to be honest. The one to the left of the door at least is actually a functional emergency light though.

There will be a full length bookcase going in to the left of the door (in the image where you're facing the window) which should hopefully allow me to properly find homes for a lot of the things in the "Pile o' Junk" (TM) in the corner so I can finally get rid of that. Something like a set of IKEA Kallax shelving will probably then go in on the other side of the door - The desk will then be extended right up to where it would meet that shelving. A decent sized chest of drawers will then be added at the foot of the bed (replacing the ancient Argos £12 bookshelf there that's been missing a shelf since 2008) so I can finally store clothing without having to cram it down to subatomic sizes to get it into the current drawers. In the bedroom I'll also be adding probably two shelves running the full length of the room above the bed for storage of things that I use less regularly but would rather not shove totally out of reach in the loft.

The radiator is buried under the desk (it's directly under the window), but honestly I'm not bothered. We've been in here since 2014 and I have not once switched it on because of how well insulated this place is, so I really don't see that as an issue. Getting heat OUT of this house is always far, far more of a challenge than getting it in. Air conditioning is definitely going to be happening in the next couple of years.

I don't think I've ever actually had what I'd describe as a "roomy" workstation before...I think I could get used to this!

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I can even actually get at the big scanner that a friend loaned to me forever ago to scan my negatives and slides now without needing to balance it precariously on top of anything any more...which is why I think about five frames have been scanned so far!

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I've very deliberately kept that corner seemingly excessively deep (not *just* because of the huge scanner) as I want to be able to set up a CRT in that corner when working on old computers where that's needed without having to dismantle half the room. In this case I just scoot the printer over to the left and stow the scanner under the desk and I've got a nice deep corner to accommodate a monitor as needed.

Speaking of monitors, I want those off my desk. I really want to get them mounted on wall arms as that would then completely clear the desk in front of me. Unfortunately that involves me having to buy £80 worth of adaptor plates as I totally failed to clock when I bought the right two monitors (which was based on the image performance alone) that HP were utter idiots and didn't include any direct provision for attaching to a VESA mount. You need to buy a special adaptor from them at £40 a shot. If I'd known that I may well have gone for something else...which is a shame as they perform really well.

I'm also really pleased to finally have somewhere to actually use that old Dazor fluorescent desk light - I dragged that thing all the way back from the US back in 2014 I think it was, but have never managed to find anywhere for it that wasn't hugely in the way...until now. It now lives on and usefully lights the drawing/crafting/electronic repair area.

While most of the heavy lifting was done yesterday, today has mostly been sorting this.

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Then starting to sort out some of the other related things that were displaced by my original workstation being removed - the network switch and our main wireless access point to name two things were left dangling by their Ethernet cables for most of the week. Only got the first few things hooked up yet but we're getting there.

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Speaking of things that I hope Future Me thanks me for one day...Yes I'm being OCD and labelling everything. I have learned enough times now that this can save so many headaches down the road it's hard to believe.

Likewise the other end of those cables are labelled to tell me which port on the switch they're hooked to. Likewise wherever they surface elsewhere in the house.

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Yes I did just manage to pull that network socket out of the ceiling... I'll sort it tomorrow.

Praying I'll get the cable routing finished tomorrow as it gets boring real quick! Especially as making Ethernet cables doesn't get any less fiddly no matter how many thousand times you've done it I find! I'm trying to keep things tidy here so am mostly making up new cables so they're actually the correct lengths.

I'm absolutely knackered, but it does feel like I'm finally getting somewhere.

I've got so many stalled art, craft and electronic projects that have been waiting for some attention that I've just not had the will to touch for *years* simply because I've had no decent space to work on them...I'm hoping that once I've got things finished here that might change a bit

Once I've more or less decided where everything is going to live I'll be getting a little more decorating done. I've always planned to use a deep red to pick out details in the room. The actual colour I'm using is from one of the most obvious things you notice when walking into the room; a lovely (to my eye) bit of late 60s lighting design, the Mazda Netaline.

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Back when fluorescent lighting was still seen as new and exciting and designers were still allowed a bit of flair. I'm a bit of a sucker for that sort of retro futuristic design. Especially if you start throwing chrome detailing into the mix too. The arm it suspends from on mine could really do with a polish I can see now I'm looking at the photo.

I'd really like to get both parts carpeted as well as I'm not a fan of hard floors, especially in bedrooms. If I could get a close colour match to the aforementioned red that would be really good in my view. The Annexe is already carpeted...but in a dirty brownish grey and it's utterly worn out in several areas so needs changing anyway. I think if I got the carpet running seamlessly through between the two areas it would help increase the perceived space by removing a visible boundary.

There's too much in the way of muted tones in decoration these days... what's wrong with a bit of colour? I won't be bothering with the carpet until I find a colour I really like. I may end up going for a complimentary colour rather than red if I see something that I think works...but I'd kind of prefer to keep it to the red aside from the neutral white on the walls and ceiling.
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An old AVO multimeter and Linux Mint... way to go!

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Post by Zelandeth » Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:49 am

rid54 wrote:
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An old AVO multimeter and Linux Mint... way to go!
I love what Mint has matured into. The days of Linux being fiddly really are gone for the most part...This had "just worked" since the day I started using it. Only faff was getting the installer to run initially - but that's down to the oddities of the 14 year old Mac Pro that's my workstation rather than any fault of Mint. Getting Windows to install was ten times more of a nuisance.

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Today mostly consisted of me chasing this stuff around.

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Then fitting loads of these.

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The sockets in my room needed sorting because I pulled one out of the ceiling yesterday. Needed to add an extra socket anyway as I wanted to bring Chris' network connection through here rather than being hooked straight into the router. Also meant I was able to get rid of the network cable that's been trailing across the hallway upstairs for the last year and a half.

Before:

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After:

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Once the various loft based cabling was routed (which required nearly two hours of Tetrising stuff in the loft so I could get to the tiny gap you need to feed stuff through to get it from the West to North "wings" of the house) and a couple of lines were added in my room I could then actually tidy up the wiring to the switch. Originally this had just been a haphazard mess which made my teeth itch every time I looked at it.

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It really doesn't seem fair that the bundle of grey wires running along the ceiling here represents almost an entire day's work!

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Another few cable clips were added since I took that photo to tidy up a couple of bits that were visibly sagging a bit.

In other news relating to my workstation I picked up a nice little upgrade for my PC. I've been keeping my eyes open for a new graphics card as the Radeon HD 5770 in there has been becoming increasingly glitchy of late. Usually manifesting itself by the window compositing system getting stuck in a loop when drawing animations...but only on any two of the displays at a time. The issue also popped up under Windows when doing 3D intensive things like running games, so pretty confident it's an issue with the card rather than a bug in Compiz or Mate.

Not exactly bleeding edge these days, but this should do everything I want it for.

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It's a GeForce GTX 1060, so is five years newer than my old card at least

At £65 it seemed worth a punt. Just waiting for a power lead adaptor (this has an 8-pin PCI-E power socket rather than 6) before I fit it. That should be here tomorrow though. Fingers crossed it will give me a bit of a performance boost (and get rid of the random glitching). Not expecting miracles (it's a 2006 machine it's going into, but despite that I know the graphics card was by far the biggest bottleneck), but getting more than 20fps in Minecraft while a video is playing in another window would be nice. Nvidia GPUs are far more widely compatible with the distributed computing work I do generally too so hopefully that will help boost my numbers.

Looks like I've got an extra display output too...that will be welcome as I've always liked the idea of using an additional one to one side just as a system status monitor. I've got a little 14" Iiyama one which could fit nicely next to the clock. After painting though as it's REALLY badly yellowed.
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Post by Andrew353w » Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:35 am

Good grief, if I'm not mistaken that's a Russian "Selina" short-wave radio on the shelf! I had one about 30 years ago and it sparked my interest in all things short wave, weird and wonderful. I rigged up an aerial in the back garden to improve the reception, which helped a little, too.

In one of those "I remember where I was" moments, I remember listening to Radio Moscow when they announced that President Gorbachov had been removed from office (=diposed!) and thinking the Cold War would become colder....it didn't!

I still have a short wave radio, a Sangean ATS909, which is a digital one, although the number of stations is less than it once was. Mind you "number stations" seem to have proliferated!
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Post by rid54 » Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:58 am

Yea, number stations are still around. HF offers a lot of weird things, like the Russian woodpecker (over-the-horizon radar) and Chinese AM stations. The chinese seem to be all over the HF band, either in their own language or in english, german or french with a mandaring tang. The amateur bands house mostly amateurs still though...

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Post by Aaron » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:42 pm

Been a busy weekend...

Saturday morning was spent up a ladder fixing faulty guttering on the house I am still trying to sell. My wife meanwhile was fretting about the potential upcoming lockdown and engaging in some rather unusaul panic buying.

When I returned home I learned that I had just 24 hours to finish the chicken house...

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before the arrival on Sunday of

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My own bout of pre-lockdown panic buying is happening tomorrow.
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Post by Zelandeth » Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:29 pm

All right...time to quit procrastinating and actually attack the to do list.

Biggest urgent item is to try to stop the Jag filling up with water.

This has been a pretty sunny day, it's obvious there's standing water in there.

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While I had already pulled the front carpet out on the offside I'd not touched the rear.

Oops.

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Yep... that's been holding on to a bit of water.

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I punched out the bungs in that vicinity to allow the water to drain from the car for now.

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I wanted to take a closer look at the rear to make sure we didn't have significant amounts of water getting in through the rear window so pulled out the rear seat. I know there can be issues with these cars where water can pool under the rear seats if the rear window leaks.

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While I did find large amounts of dog hair, aside from a little condensation there was no water to be found happily.

The nearside carpets were slightly damp but not actually hiding standing water.

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I've removed them from the car to be taken inside and thoroughly dried out for now.

One of the main areas I knew water was getting in was via the heater.

I had it in my head that I'd already checked the scuttle drains though the evidence found today suggests otherwise.

Hard to see here but this drain is full of water. A pint or so ran out of the heater intake box when I pulled this off.

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When I reverse flushed this with the hose pipe, a solid 4" plug of compacted decomposing organic matter was ejected. No wonder I've been having water ingress problems! Both sides were exactly the same. I reckon these drains have been clogged for a very long time.

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Daft design though, the widest point in the whole drain is right at the top...with each join from there on getting smaller. It's just asking to get clogged. Passenger side is easy to get at at least, though the driver's side is awkward an you have to remove the offside air filter and wriggle it out around the brake master cylinder.

The other issues I had had with the heater were twofold. Firstly was a stubborn refusal to reliably blow hot air and secondly a continual cold draugt oh my left knee.

I think there are two issues here. Firstly is that something is amiss with the control logic and/or the Heath Robinson collection of motorised cams and vacuum actuators which control the heater assembly.

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The level of complexity and lack of access look like fun!

I was hoping to figure out what's where when it's blowing hot then be able to temporarily lock it in that position...however you just can't see or get at it well enough. I'll need to fault find the control system I think.

I quickly discovered that the blue thing which is the plenum sitting between the heater blower and the box containing the heater matrix were not actually attached to each other. You can see there's a good 1/2" of a gap at the end of the ducts.

The copper you can see there is actually inside the heater box itself.

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The moment I touched this it just fell out. Wasn't attached at the top either.

This turned out to be Rather Annoying.

Turns out getting his thing back into position is *incredibly* awkward.

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It needs to bridge the gap between the stubs arrowed in this image.

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After somewhere between three and four hours of arguing with it while literally laying upside down in the footwell I gave up for the day. I just cannot for love nor money get the plenum to fit over the rectangular stub on the blower.

All the guides to servicing or replacing the blower motors seem to suggest attaching it to the blower before refitting it. So I'll probably need to get the whole blower out. Yay.

I guess on the plus side it was going to have to happen eventually to sort the speed controller anyway...but I was hoping to make this a quick job!

Patience is definitely something you need working on these cars! You can be sure that Jaguar's designers will never let you down with regards to finding new and exciting ways to make an easy job incredibly difficult.
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Re: Today I mostly .....

Post by Zelandeth » Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:28 pm

Bearing in mind that it was raining this morning, walking up to the car and finding only this by way of signs of condensation definitely seems a positive indication compared to yesterday...

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Footwells are bone dry save for a bit of residual damp from the annoyingly glued in place carpet I can't remove.

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I'd really like to get my dehumidifier set up in the car and leave it running for a few days to get the carpets I can't remove etc properly dried out, sadly the fan on it has seized so I need to pull it to bits to revive it at some point.

I only had half an hour today before the daylight failed, so was mainly checking for signs of further water ingress...however while I was there I snapped a few photos mostly for a bit of my own reference...and to show just how much stuff is crammed in behind the dash in this contraption for those who haven't ever dug into one of these cars.

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The black rectangle attached to the blower body is one of about half a dozen fuse boxes scattered seemingly at random around the car.

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Pulled the instrument panel yesterday to see if that would give me better access to get that annoying plenum back in place...the answer being "no" unless I want to remove the brace holding the steering column to the bulkhead. The blue thing several layers back is the offending item I'm trying to get back into where it lives. Even with that bracket out the way I don't think it would help me much as that wiring loom behind it is as solid as a rock.

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At least getting the instrument panel out is pretty easy courtesy of it being a fully electronic panel so there's no speedometer cable to worry about and the reach adjustment on the steering wheel means getting it out of the gap is easy enough.

The moment you look down however you get to see the haphazard mess of relays in the general vicinity of the fuse box. Not sure if these were originally clipped in place some how...

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Despite the penny pinching, nice to see they didn't skimp on RF suppression on the brake light switch!

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Though I get the impression that switch probably contains 50% more moving parts than is really necessary.

In the passenger's footwell there's a second fuse box, another blower assembly and more relays. Some nice and neatly clipped in by the fusebox...others just...well stuffed behind the trim seemingly at random.

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The whole push/pull arrangment for the bonnet release/lock means even the handle for that is overcomplicated.

Had wondered how far up the HVAC assembly I could see from down there...answer being "Not very" I think, so I'll probably need to pull the glove box out if I need to get to anywhere up there.

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Just noticed looking at the photo, I do indeed spy an old Econocruise control box...there's a blast from the past.

It seems to be the same story basically behind any bit of trim you remove in this car...there's just "stuff" behind everything, including in the boot (which is where the injection ECU lives).

I think the HVAC control system probably gets the award for most overcomplicated design though. I mean you couldn't just have stepper motors, tiny servos or vacuum control...you had to have ALL of the above in one unit...I'm sure it made sense to somebody!
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Current fleet: 96 Citroen Xantia Activa, 90 Mercedes 208D Autotrail Navajo, 85 Jaguar XJ-S V12 HE, 85 Sinclair C5, 73 AC Model-70.

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